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passengers. the first deadly train accident in decades. right now in washington, republicans are putting final touches on their response to the border crisis, and it's said to include national guard troops, speedier returns of unaccompanied children, and a major reduction to president obama's $3.7 billion emergency request. and a plan to divide california into six separate states has got enough signatures to make it on the november 2016 ballot. it's backed by a venture chalist who argues the residents would be better served by smaller government. democracy at work. i'm krystal ball. you are in "the cycle." and powerful summer storms are bearing down on capitol hill at this hour. and the forecast come fall could be just as severe, specifically for some vulnerable senate
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democrats. republicans have six seats on their radar in the upcoming midterms. that's how many they need to take control. and there's a blizzard of fundraising activity. there's a lot more of these to come, guys. buckle up. we are talking about michigan and colorado. the president's approval ratings there in both states are under water at just 40%. the picture is much cloudier than it was in 2012 when the president carried 54% of michigan and 51% of colorado. a new poll shows that political storm has spread to senate candidates where demes are holding only slight leads. first, we've got colorado senator mcchrystal udall. he's got a seven-point lead over gop challenger cory gardner. meanwhile in michigan, congressman gary peters has a six hof point lead over terri lynn land. keep in mind, these polls are among registered voters, not likely voters.
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in the last midterm cycle, only 48% of registered voters actually came out to the polls in colorado. percentage was even lower, actually, in michigan. one sunny spot for democrats in these states is that voters are even more down on congressional republicans, but is that enough to weather a late autumn storm? >> i see what you did there. >> let's ask our own mr. sunshine, msnbc political analyst howard fineman. how's it going? >> just terrific. thank you. >> nice and sunny over there. so the question here is, whose bad approval ratings are going to more define the midterm elections? the president under water, which has an impact on democratic candidates. but he looks great compared to the way that house republicans in congress in general is viewed. >> yes, if he's under water, they're at the bottom of the ocean. i think that's a big part of what the democrats have to hope
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that voters focus on. by the way, i think that's one reason why republicans having cried and cried and cried about the situation at the border realize that they had to try at least to look like they're trying to legislate, which is why they put together that package that's now maybe going to move things forward. they realize at least in this case, in the case of immigration and in the case of the humanitarian crisis on the border, they actually have to do something. most of the rest of the time, they've done nothing. that's the democrats' best hope of hanging on. >> and the one thing that seems to be helping democrats right now is republicans cannot rally behind a cohesive message. so what they're doing is they're zoning in full speed on this impeachment talk and suing the president, hoping that's going to fire up the voters. and it seems like most rational people listening to this and watching this play out are thinking, this is really foolish stuff. we even heard from bill crystal saying this. yet, howard, i came across this
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poll last night, which i'm sure you've seen. two-thirds of republicans think obama should be impeached over abusing his constitutional powers, but a third of americans also agree with that. that's a big chunk of the population, howard, that agrees with sarah palin. >> i was -- i won't say i was shocked by that result, but, you know, that's a pretty reliable poll. we wouldn't publish it if it weren't. i think it reflects sentiment among republicans. i've rarely seen a situation -- and it's a cliche to say it, but it's true -- of such political polarization in the country in a poll. you can say they have no agenda. you can say they're not doing anything legislatively, but republicans at the grassroots are almost unanimous in not only their dislike but their sort of fear bordering on hatred of barack obama.
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that's why that number is there, because that represents mostly republicans. and it's really quite amazing. it's actually in a perverse way a strength for the republicans going into midterm elections that are generally low turnout. if the democrats don't get their people out, if independents stay home, then the republicans are going to sweep in the senate and probably governorships this year. >> i think you're right. >> howard, obamacare looks like quite a success at this point. we have 8, 9 million people signing up for the aca plans. another 6.5 million signing up for medicaid. and yet, there has not been -- people realizing this is a valuable thing, a lot of republicans saying they like their plan. this has not turned out to be much help for senate democrats. we really see that in a state like north carolina where we have 350,000 enrollees, the third highest number out of states without their own exchange. this is an example of government making a change and people having their lives changed by
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that for the better. and yet, kay hagan is still neck and neck with tom tillus. obama could go to north carolina today and say, you know what, north carolina, if you like your plan, you can keep your senator. but north is like, i'm not sure about all that, if i want to. >> i think the reason for that is in the numbers. again, i'd refer to a poll, this one by pew, which broke down support and opposition to the affordable care act by age and income and so forth. what you find is that older people in general, the older you get, the more likely you are to be opposed to the affordable care act. the higher your income, the more likely you are to be opposed to the affordable care act. what that means is people with medicare, people who have company-sponsored provided insurance, which after all is the vast majority of the american people, they look at the affordable care act as
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something that threatens their own situation. even in places where medicare has been extended, again, the goal there has to be politically for the democrats to get those voters out. that people were helped in a state like kentucky. by the way, i think this whole senate picture is going to come down to kentucky. they extended medicaid in kentucky. those people need to turn out. if they don't turn out, then allison grimes doesn't have a chance against mitch mcconnell in a race where she's in a dead heat right now. >> you talk about turning people out. tomorrow the senate democrats holding their first vote in response to the hobby lobby decision led by senator patty murray. what she wants to do is something she's calling the protect women's health from corporate interference act. it would basically roll back that hobby lobby decision that found for the first time in history that corporations have some sort of imagined religious right. people may wonder, wait a minute, can congress roll back a supreme court decision? you bet they can when the decision rested on the
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interpretation of a law. in this case, the religious freedom act, where they said that protection meant corporate protection, even though we'd spent decades without it. walk us through the politics here, howard. and in colorado, we want to point out our nbc poll shows that when you just ask people what they think of, are you more or less likely to vote for a candidate who supports restrictions on the use of con stra tepgs, 70% of them say less likely. >> that number shows why harry reid is determined to get that piece of legislation to the floor for a vote or do his best to do so despite what i'm sure will be filibuster tactics by the republicans. because women, especially pro-choice women, not eblgs collusively single but a lot of them single working women and working mothers and so forth. a very important, if not the most important single giant constituency of the democratic party. those people need reasons to turn out. those people need reasons to be
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reminded why they should see the republicans as the enemy from the democratic point of view. and that's exactly what that piece of legislation is about. it's not going to be enacted into law, but we're at the point now in congress, especially in the senate but also in the house, the republican house, where people, leaders are bringing pieces of legislation to the floor that are never going to pass but are really like the first step in a 30-second ad that you're going to see later down the road. and let me mention kentucky again because allison grimes raised $4 million in the second quarter, which is a colossal amount of money. i think the senate races are going to come down to that race in kentucky. and it's going to be pro-choice women in that state. there are a lot of them. she's going to have to turn out if she's going to beat mitch mcconnell in what is now a dead-heat race. >> and another thing that's happening in that race and a few other races around the country is allison grimes has brought in elizabeth warren to campaign for her, which some folks have been surprised about.
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warren's also gone to west virginia to campaign for natalie tennin. she's in the progressive wing of the party. she's been portrayed as outside the mainstream. when you're looking at candidates in kentucky and west virginia saying, hey, elizabeth warren, come here, come campaign with me, it shows the message, the populous message that warren really champions focused on the middle class is one that has resonance in a whole lot of places across the country. >> yes, and she's pretty strong on environmental issues, skeptical about the use of coal. those two candidates in west virginia and kentucky, those democrats, have brought elizabeth warren in, in spite of the risks of antagonizing the coal lobby because i think the calculation is that the people who are going to vote based on coal are going to vote republican. again, the democrats need to get working women out. even though elizabeth warren was a harvard law school professor,
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even though she's a senator, she does have the kind of background, she does have the kind of middle-class family background and the ability to talk about it that really can connect to women voters and in those two states. that's where the ball game is in the 2014 senate races. >> yeah, she tells her story well, and she tells the story of america right now very well too. howard fineman, thank you so much. >> thank you, guys. up next, a proposed cease-fire broken after only a few hours, and a deal with iran. a busy day in the middle east. we'll get you up to speed as "the cycle" rolls on on a very stormy, tuesday, july 15th. vo: this is the summer. the summer of this. the summer that summers from here on will be compared to. where memories will be forged into the sand. and then hung on a wall for years to come.
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we are back with more on the cease-fire talks between israel and hamas. hours after israel said it was open to halting those attacks on gaza, responding to a cease-fire proposal, hamas has begun firing rockets back into israel, one killing a civilian. that's the first israeli death since this round of fighting began. all bets for a cease-fire right now are clearly off. now, bloodshed has been mounting on both sides. israel's iron dome has helped defend some of the big cities like tel aviv and jerusalem. there's no protection like that in gaza where the health ministry now says 194 palestinians have been killed by those israeli air strikes. a number that has been growing each day. and that has put more pressure on the u.s. to broker some kind of peace deal or cease-fire. secretary kerry says the administration is ready to help
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tackle the underlying issues. >> the united states is always prepared. president obama has said this again and again, to do everything in our power to help the parties come together to work, to create a climate for genuine negotiations to be able to deal with the issues that truly separate these parties. and we stand prepared to do that. >> kerry was speaking in vienna, where there's also been news today of a possible deal on iranian nukes. of course, the conflict also continues in iraq, where some analysts are warning that isis is growing stronger by the day. we're joined by mark ginsburg, former u.s. ambassador to morocco. good day to you. >> hi, ari. >> for followers of the israeli-arab conflict, there's a lot here that's familiar, old, and sad. one thing that's different is the nature of the governments in the region. walk us through how that government in egypt, which made this proposal and is not exactly best friends with hamas is playing a role trying to get
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some kind of assistance or deal here to create a cooling off period and where do we go ahead? >> well, ari, president al sisi of egypt has basically been the counter of president morsi, who was overthrown with respect to ham hamas. he's tried to seal the tunnels that have permed the infiltration of iranian weaponry into hamas' hands. he's also tried to rein in hamas' efforts with the missile attacks. they want to reduce hamas' role in the gaza strip and to suffocate its ability to provoke another middle east conflict, which is counter to president al sisi's goals and objectives. >> and ambassador, we did have the first casualty on the israeli side here. how does that change the sentiment and the calculation for israelis? >> look, the israelis have
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suffered enormously under this constant threat and barrage of missiles. it's not the fact that iron dome has protected them. it's the fact so many of their lives have been disrupted. while all of that may be happening, the loss of lives among gazan civilians is just terrible. let's remember how this all began. this was hamas that kidnapped young israelis. the israelis tried to round up those hamas leaders responsible for that. hamas began firing missiles back into israel, and here we are. hamas is the problem that stands between israel and an agreement with the palestinian authority to negotiate in effect the type of agreement that kerry wants to see. and that is a peaceful resolution of this conflict. as long as hamas has missiles, they're going to prevent that from happening. >> i want to transition to iran, which is a constant conflict for the united states. john kerry just headed back now
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after negotiations with iran. the deal, as "the new york times" describes, or has reported, is that iran would freeze its nuclear program, and in exchange, the u.s. would begin lifting its sanctions. ambassador, the white house is sort of between a rock and a hard place here because on the surface, which is all great, the headlines will be the u.s. halts a nuclear iran, but ultimately, this was not a deal that they wanted to end with. are you surprised they didn't push harder on this? >> listen, i know that the administration -- and i have to give it credit for trying to push hard here, but remember, this is not going to be hard for anyone to decipher. it's all in the numbers. how many centrifuges are able to spin enriched uranium? how much enriched uranium will iran be able to have? it's not going to be you or i or even secretary kerry who determines whether this passes the smell test. it's going to be congressional opponents as well as our israeli
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allies, who of course are looking very intently about what was negotiated. and remember, the ayatollah made it very clear on monday that he's not going to agree to a reduction of iran's right to enrich. so i'm not sure what "the new york times" has here. and i'm not sure what secretary kerry is bringing back. i'd be very suspicious before i'd be jumping to conclusions here. >> strong words there. let's have some more strong words with you about iraq. right now isis controls a large section of the country. we cannot just blast or bomb them back into submission. so seems like we've kind of decided to live with this for the moment. is it time to consider diplomacy with isis? >> i can't possibly swallow that one. that's like saying let's negotiate with al qaeda's worst brother. look, let's remember here what isis is all about. our military boots on the ground in iraq that are trying to
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assess the intelligence capacity of the iraqi army to rid northern iraq and northern syria of this has got to be job one. number two, how do you negotiate with a party that is determined to not only destroy iraq, jordan, israel as well as our other allies, our shiite allies as well as other sunni states, but is also prepared to send back to the united states and great britain terrorists? anyone suggesting they want to sit down with isis, i'd like to send them with a white flag to mosul and sit down with mr. al baghdadi and see what they get out of that. >> i hear you there. one of their spokesmen said al qaeda is nothing but an organization, we are a state, we are the future. something that concerns a lot of people in that region as well as you. ambassad ambassador, thanks for your time. >> sure. good to be with you guys. up next, a home run derby for the record books and a tip of the hat to one of the game's all-time greats. you can hide uneven skin tone from here.
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and back now in the storm cycle, some chilly air is plunging south from canada. as the weather channel notes n mid-july, cool air does not arrive quietly. that's why more than 60 million americans are at risk for severe storms this afternoon. and right now the big cities along the i-95 corridor, places lake washington, philadelphia, new york, and boston r facing the threat of gusty winds, frequent lightning and heavy rain. it should all begin to clear out as unseasonably cool temperatures set until tomorrow. keep it with us and weather.com for the updates. turning now to sports. storms delayed the start of major league baseball's home run derby last night in minneapolis, but nothing could rain on yoenis cespedes parade. he crushed nine homers in the final round for a total of 28.
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tonight the premier event when the best players from the american league hit the field against the best of the national league. it's the annual all-star game. retiring yankees captain derek jeter will make his 14th and final appearance. he's retiring at the end of this season. the honorspour iing in. perhaps none more moving than a 90-second tribute last night from nike. it is so good, we're going to show you the whole thing. >> now batting for the yankees, number 2, derek jeter. number 2. ♪
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>> that is what you call a good ad. it gives you chills. it is so moving. "the huffington post's" jordan shu schultz is back at the table today. jordan, always great to have you here. we have some business we'll get to a little later in this segment. but everyone's talking about derek jeter right now. tonight is his last all-star game. i mean, he's a player that is so talented but also so incredibly beloved. this is, in many ways, sort of the end of an era. >> absolutely. he defines class. he's not having his best year. it's beside the point. he's actually 40 years old. the first 40-year-old shortstop to start in an all-star game, i was at that game. cal ripken. derek jooeter will lead off the game tonight. >> people get psyched for the all-star game. abby says you can't pick among the all-stars. that's like picking among the wu
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tang clan and asking who adds the most. tell us what to watch for. >> i look at the pitching matchup. felix hernandez, absolutely lights-out pitcher. probably the best pitcher of this generation right now. he goes up against adam wainwright, who from st. louis, a little controversy there starting over clayton kershaw. you have two of the best pitchers in the game. that's where it all starts for me. i think the all-star game is all about young players. jean carlos stanton, not starting, but he can literally hit a 500-foot home run. this would be a great game. you know what, it doesn't necessarily matter for the average fan. you want to tune in, because now the way that it is, the format now, you got the world series actually determining home field advantage. >> that's the worst part of it. why would an exhibition game matter to the world series? totally pointless. >> might be the worst rule in professional sports. >> i don't have a view on the rule, but krystal and i were talking about this today. >> ari is formulating a rant for
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later in the week. >> cannot wait for that. >> by the way, you mentioned yoenis cespedes. last night becomes the first guy to go back-to-back in '98-'99. he came from cuba, defected. he's been through a lot. great story. >> brief story. i did chase ken griffey's car down for an autograph when i was 10 years old. >> that is the most you've told about yourself ever. >> because you mentioned him. that's when i was a kid. i don't follow sports anymore. i was like 10. the car was leaving. he wouldn't sign. they drove off. i just chased. >> did you get it? >> -- with the ball and pulled up. he got caught in the traffic. then i had rolled down and signed the ball. >> that's the big one right there. >> i'm told, though, jordan that, the home run derby last night was not that exciting. >> really wasn't. >> you're like the most optimistic guy we know. >> i saw tweets where people were harkening back to a bygone
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era. todd ferrell jr. said, the home run derby was better in the steroid era. there, i said it. >> if it wasn't for cespedes saving it, it would be a completely worthless event, basically. remember, with the rain delay, it actually ended up being longer than the germany/argentina final. >> oh, boring. that was a bad segue. >> but yes, it was not the greatest. >> let's change gears. since we saw you last, the earth has moved beneath us in the sports world. lebron james has said he's going home, going back to cleveland. this changes the balance of power in the eastern conference, maybe in the nba in general. two points it is i wanted to hear your thoughts on that lebron's going home, which is something you never really see in sports, especially a superstar choosing to align himself with a team and a city that's really known for losing a lot. it makes me think of kurt schilling saying i'm going to go
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to boston. strap that team and city on my back. he was successful with that. the other thing we saw, he signed a two-year deal, right. nice, short deal. >> player option after one year. >> exactly. that gives lebron all the leverage in the world. >> once again, this is what lebron does. i wrote a pretty negative article about this for "huff post." the reason is, for me, i want to know where that loyalty was, guys, four years ago when he basically stabbed the back of every single cleveland sports fan. >> he explained that. >> he said he was 25, he made a mistake. miami was kind of like college for him. now he's going back home. speaking to your point, not to get too technical, but he'll be able to earn almost 40% more because of the new cba in two years, which is why he only signed two years. i'm not so sure it's him trying to leave cleveland in one or two years. for me, this is a much bigger story than basketball. it's being sold as this hero coming home. my biggest thing today is, what do the cyclists feel? is this a hero coming home, or is this an emperor being
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dethroned once again? >> how is he being dethroned? he's going back to where he came from. >> you know what i think toure is doing? he's trying to avoid something we're waiting to talk about. which is that germany won the world cup. jordan predicted this from the beginning. you were wrong. jordan was right. >> sure. great. >> shake on it. >> you got it right. remove two players from -- >> oh, you know what? >> the two best players from the team. see what happens. >> germany becomes the first european team to go to the americas and win a world cup. dominant performance. >> you got it right on the prediction. kudos to you. >> so happy toure can embrace it. >> great stuff. all right. always great having you. up next, meet an educator who will make you stand up and cheer and give you a new hope for america's students.
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while the cycle was in atlanta growing hope back in may, i walked/danced into one of the most amazing places i had ever seen. it's a school that changed my entire perception of what is possible in our education system. i saw a whole new method of teaching that has to be seen really to be believed. kids were happy. they were eager to be there. i true lu saw magic in this school and in these kids. they inspired me. teachers from all around the country come to the ron clark academy in atlanta to learn these teaching methods. kids from all over georgia clam more to be accepted. it is a nonprofit middle school whose teaching is based on community and collaboration with a classroom atmosphere that's anything but average rca's co-founder has won numerous national awards for teaching, and now she's written a new book. it's called "crash course." it shares all of the things these amazing kids have taught her. and kim, you so kindly welcomed us into your home. thank you so much for coming to
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ours. it's nice to have you here >> thank you for having me. >> i got to see the amazing things that you are doing at ron clark academy, but so our audience and viewers know, tell us what you see as setting your school apart and as really working. these kids not only have a great time, but they get a super rigorous and effective education. >> right. our school is a model school. we want it to be everything we think a school should be. it's full of passion and joy and excitement and energy. but it's also very hard. we set very high expectations for our students. and they thrive in this environment. so it's that balance of the discipline, the manners, the respect, but also creating joy and passion and excitement for learning. >> there's a lot of music. there's a lot of energy in every classroom. >> absolutely. kids are moving. there's art. there's song. there's dance. all those things use to teach what we're trying to get across with the curriculum. >> so moving to watch that video every single time. you've opened up as well about your personal life and the ups and downs you've been through.
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marriage, children, divorce, betray betrayal, financial setbacks. these kids go to school every day to learn from you and other folks. what have they taught you in your own life? >> krystal said it well when she said those kids inspired her. i found that to be true in my own life. ups and down, we all have them. every adult has a story. when that happens, sometimes we lose sight of what's really important, and we just kind of go into ourselves and really struggle. what i realized in my darkest times is by watching though students, surrounding myself with them, and seeing their resilience, how they work through problems, their job, they're really focusing on what mapters. i took that to heart, and it taught me. that's why i wanted to write this book, to share that with others. there are a lot of broken adults out there trying to help broken children. so my goal was to say, you know, it you're in that place, there are so many lessons we can learn from others. >> if they can get through it, you can too. >> absolutely. >> when a lot of people go to school or remember their time in grade school, they felt very constrained. didn't feel like a place where
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you could necessarily be yourself or figure out who you are. you write in the book about creativity and unlocking that. you write about a student named dustin who was a perfectly fine student on the academic side, but who didn't really come out of his shell and get excited until he was involved in one of the school's fashion show projects. talk to us about that aspect and the sort of creative pieces that are not just traditional teaching. >> when i'm teaching, i try to bring learning to life. i've used everything from a fashion show to teach descriptive writing, to where we create an italian restaurant. there's all these things. i want to bring the joy of learning to life. so, yes, dustin was a student who was very bright and very capable and making good grades, but he didn't have a passion for learning. that's one of my biggest fears, is that there's an art and a science to teaching. i definitely believe the science is important. we focus on that a lot in our schools, but we're losing the artistry. we can't just be worried about those tests. we have to be instilling a joy
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for learning in these kids. so when you make learning come to life using the creativity, embracing kids' you topeunique and gifts, that's when they have a gift for a lifetime. >> so inspiring. you got me thinking about these hundreds of black kids who you have in your nest who you are training to go out and conquer the world. but when they leave your nest, they're going to encounter a world with a lot of racism. are you training them to deal with that to? >> it's my fervent hope we are. one of the things we do that's unique is we talk openly about race. sadly, we don't do that. so we have a whole generation of students and adults that don't know how to have those conversations. so what we do is we have that conversation. what we say at our school is we do see color. if i don't see your color, i don't see your culture, i don't see what influences you, what kind of path you've had to leave. i'm a middle class white woman from suburbia.
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i can never pretend to know what it would be to be a young african-american male. i can't pretend to do that. but i can seek to understand it. so we have those conversations. then the other piece of that is through having those, i feel like i'm better able to empower them. i can have those conversations, say, you know what, there's r e racism in the world, but i'm going to prepare you so well that you're going to excel in spite of the challenges you face prc . >> and these kids are excelling. one thing i took from my visit that's stayed with me is you have kids from a wide variety of backgrounds. some have a tough socioeconomic background or family background. yet, they all come to school with this feeling of being blessed. multiple of them told me how grateful they are, how lucky they feel. i just thought that was an incredible thing when the cards have been stacked against these kids and they still feel so blessed thanks to your work. so nice to have you. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> and if you didn't catch it the first time, you can check out the growing hope feature
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i brought my kids to work a few times. when i do, the worst things they face are a paper cut while coloring or getting lost in a snuggle with abby. but when you're captain of "the deadliest catch," bringing your kid to work means she has to face some of the harshest weather in the world. >> here she comes. bam! mother nature is going to give us a little spanking, i think. >> wow. that's 18-year-old mandy hanson out there with her dad sig aboard the northwestern making "the deadliest catch" even better. welcome. mandy, why did you want to go out in the crab boat with your dad? >> i just don't see why not. i mean, i've been watching them for all my life. we've been fishermen for generations. i just want to follow in my dad's footsteps.
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>> you didn't want her out there, but you said if she's going to be out there, i want you on my boat where i can watch you. but you have to see all the things that are happening to your baby. >> it was tough, man. it was horrific to watch it. and it made me cry at times. the happiest moment for me was getting her off the damn boat to be honest. it's no place for a little girl. but i mean, you know -- >> not a little girl, though. >> she'll always be a little girl to me. at the same time, i think she had something to prove. we weren't going to hold her back. it's like, why not? it's a great experience for any kid. really is. >> so we have a little bit of video from the show of how some of the guys viewed you being on the boat. let's take a look. >> i just don't think crabbing is for ladies, but i'm not chauvinist or anything. it's just tough. >> sometimes it's hard to tell a woman what to do, as we all know. especially if she's a hanson. >> a little safety training. >> he's not chauvinist or
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anything. how are you treated? with did you feel like you were given a fair shake there? >> i was treated as a greenhorn. they were just trying to show me the ropes, where to stand, where not to stand, and to shut up and do my job. >> anything surprise you? >> the weather. >> the weather was worse than you imagined? >> yes. the stories of the fishermen sound like tall tales. you go out there and go, oh, my goodness, where are you? how is this possible? >> what was the roughest part for you? >> the waves, you know, it throws you around, honestly. just realizing that you're out there completely on your own. you're floating in the middle of nowhere. >> her hands started hurting a little bit too for a while. that was a tough hurdle to get through. your body is in pain. >> any greenhorn would go through that. >> if your body is not fatigued, you're not working hard enough. >> young people are often called the invincibles. it feels like you can never die.
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do you feel that translates to this job? do you feel like you're less afraid, more experienced? >> when i get older, i get scared to death. i get more afraid afraid every n out there. that age, 18, it was like, invincible. you didn't care. all macho. you wanted to do bigger, badder, better. now i just want to make it home in one piece. >> would it be easier with your son who said he wanted to go out on the boat with you? >> in all honestly, yeah. >> i'm sure your wife would be happy about that, too. >> mandy, tomboy. we do motorcycle riding, waterskiing and the kid was a gymnast when she was younger. she's got the, that mind-set. >> what's going to be harder? i have to ask. harder, her doing this or bringing home a guy she wants to marry? [ laughter ] >> bringing home the guy. >> he's in for it? >> has she proven herself? like, next year, are you going to be like, come on, let's go? >> absolutely.
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i mean, the only advice i would give her, the same advice my dad gave me. don't ever quit. that's all you've got to do. keep your mouth shut, head down and do your job. so she was the "bategirl." normally you call it the "bateboy." not easy. hands iffatigued, can't feel th in the morning, as long as she did it, i was okay with that. >> any advice for your dad? >> stay in the-whe wheelhouse. >> you set me up! >> stay in the whaeelhouse. >> you're 18 years old, foundation your passion. most are going to college to figure out what to do with their life. that must feel vipretty us a ma. >> i'm thankful i know what i want to do and where i want to go. i watch everyone else. they struggle so much, where to go, how much nomoney to put dow
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on something they want. i'm going to go out, get my license. >> mandy, you don't feel i'm going to try it and move on to something else? it's the career and life you want? >> i've known a long time this is what i want to do. >> you're all right with that, daed? >> she's gunning for my job, man. i can see the writing on my wall right now. >> are you okay spending her liven 0 the boat? >> i think it's ridiculous, because, you know -- let's face it. it's a fishing career. you don't know if there's going to be a season, from one year to the next. there's no job security. not to mention if you get hurt, you're out. and then on top of that, there's no retirement plan. there's nothing. so, you know, it's a -- it's not for everybody. >> why did you do it, then? >> i was too stupid to do anything else. but -- no. for me, it was something that -- that's all i ever wanted to do as well. i can see through her eyes. i understand, but you know, i've gone for months on end, we didn't make a dime, and then all
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of a sudden, you know, you can go for months and -- you're loaded. so it's -- >> of course, nothing is certain in this economy these day, anyway. >> you're a great family. thank you for coming here. thank you for doing that with the boats. congratulations, best of luck to you, mandy. >> thanks a lot. >> "the deadliest catch" airs tuesdays, 9:00 p.m. on the discovery channel. up next, why the road to political hell is paved by d.c. explained. nsaids, like celebre,
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of the country. chances are you are not faring much better. overall, 65% of our nation's roads are rated in less than good condition, according to the american society of civil engineers, and 25% of our bridges need significant repair. meanwhile, because we're driving less and using more fuel-efficient car, the gas tax that used to fund our highways is falling short. but never fear. congress is here! faced with the prospect of infrastructure calamity, and the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs as our highway trust fund runs dry, congress is taking bold action and delaying the crisis for at least another ten months. way to go, guys. i guess using accounting gimmicks like pension smoothing, trust me, you don't want to know the details, to keep highway projects from coming to an abrupt standstill is better than nothing, i guess. i can't help but be depressed over this is symbolic in all the ways in which our country is
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slowly drawing down its own trust fund built up by our grandparents and great-grandparents, moving from crisis to crisis, pushing them off to the future. here we see a familiar pattern. something that was previously non-controversial, like building roads or raising the debt ceiling or helping unemployments or paying for things we want to do through taxes, rather than the magic of fantasies. those previously common sense activities become newly controversial. a segment of the republican caucus decides they are hell-bent against doing that thing and the rest of the gop caucus along with the dems after much stress and national heartburn, narrowly overt disaster coming up with what would in any normal time be seen as a crappy and unacceptable solution but at least gets us through the next six weeks or couple months or a year. because they've set the bar so low, we all breathe a sigh of relief at least we didn't go off the cliff, but it's no way to govern a country, and it's certainly no way to maintain a great nation.
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the highway trust fund, congress kick the can solution gets us through next may when they're likely do something similar again, able to maintain our current infrastructure but bringing us into were the modern era, forget about that. here's how the president of the american road and transportation builders association puts it. the highway trust fund has been limping from crisis to crisis for the past six years, as america's transportation network continues to decline, therefore, our message to congress is simple. your job isn't close to being done. same with education, with research, with the flagging middle class. so because we never really deal with the problems, we fall further and further behind. lie the proverbial frog in the pot. the water slowly gets hotter cooking up without us realizing it. we can't go on like this forever. eventually in the not too distant future those reserves built up by past generations will run out. then what? it will be much more than just our roads that will crumble.
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meantime, i advise you to avoid the bridges in west virginia. that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts now. coyotes and sheeps clothing. the border rhetoric getting wild. it's tuesday, july 15th, and this is "now." >> it makes it very difficult to believe things will get better the longer the house of representatives fiddles. can a texas tandem lead texas congress to ard boer bre border? >> and we all have to stand together. >> no you that there is movement with this new bill, we're going to start to see a lot of pushback. >> is this legislation dead on i rival? >> we'll wait until the task force comes back. >> [ inaudible ]. >> got lots of them. >> would you -- >> no. >> seet
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